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Hello! I have a problem similar to a couple of other topics where fuse blows immediately. However, my speaker works fine from battery if it’s recharged externally. Also, there is nothing is obviously burned or damaged on the board. Any suggestions how to diagnose the problem? Thank you!
Update (01/22/2022) Thank you, @jayeff ! I’ve found schematic of Marshall Stanmore on this link and attach the images https://www.elektroda.com/rtvforum/topic… would you be able to suggest which element of the scheme may cause short cicuit please? I’m no expert in electronics but would assume that if something is burned/broken it should stop the flow of electric current rather than accelerate it?
Hi @timlar , if it only blows the fuse on the AC input and works OK on the DC supply you may have to start checking the AC from where it connects to the board and gets to a power transformer and then a diode bridge so that it is rectified to produce DC to operate the device. This is difficult without a schematic however you could try contacting the person in this link as it seems that he has schematics of the power supply. This is a translation of what he says (in Dutch): Hi gentlemen, if you search Marshall Stanmore you will find some service info / diagrams of the power supply. this is a larger version than the Kilburn / Acton , but in principle the power supplies (PSU) are of the same construction. I can send you the details, just email me, pe1rfe@outlook.com. Yours sincerely, Jan Hoeve, pe1rfe Can you fix Marshall tufton to? Update (01/22/2022) Hi @timlar , Firstly, have you replaced the blown fuse with a T1.6A 250V fuse and not a 1.6A 250V fuse? The fuse rating should be stamped on the fuse end connectors. The value is also shown on the image of the board that you posted. The T rating is very important because this denotes that it is a slow blow fuse (T= timed) and not a standard fast acting fuse (aka, a normal fuse). They are designed not to blow when the AC power is first connected due to the high inrush current which flows in the circuit. This current lasts for only 10mS (milli seconds) before it subsides. A normal fuse will blow every time due to this inrush current flow but not a slow blow fuse, that is why it is used. The inrush current flow value can be as much as 20 times the normal current flow that it used by the device. I think that the schematic you posted is only similar and not the one for the device as for a start the fuse value is different. The schematic shows a T2.5A and your board is a T1.6A However, for a fuse to blow every time, you need to have a very low resistance path or a short circuit i.e. 0.00Ω between the two AC input leads i.e. the active and the neutral on pins 1 & 3 as shown in the image. With the power disconnected from the device and the correct fuse inserted, place an Ohmmeter across pins 1 & 3 of the AC input connector on the board and check what the resistance measurement is. If it measures a short circuit as you can see there are a lot of components connected directly between the two wires from the two red arrows to the 2 green arrows and none of them should be short circuit. You will need to disconnect (unsolder) one side of each component that connects between the two wires, one at a time, until the short circuit disappears when testing between pins 1 & 3. Once it does then most likely you have found the faulty component. Testing at board level with no obvious visual damage takes time and if the schematic is not the one you will have to trace the tracks on the board to find out which components are connected in the path
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I have drawn up the schematic of a Kilburn, the other models, acton, stanmore etc. are primarily equal to each other I think. Secondary there are differences, there is also a different transformer in it, with more secondary windings. The errors are usually in the primary part. I will try to upload the schematic. Greetings, Jan Hoeve, pe1rfe.
Hi @timlar , I have a Marshall Kilburn with a blown LL10 component, and there is no way of finding out what that component was or what it measures. Is it possible for you to click share a closeup of your psu board and how much it measures. Thank You..!!
